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thank you for this blueprint, it had saved me a lot of time and motivated me to better understand HA automation!
In my case I am using it with Tesla Model S and Tesla Wall Connector gen 3 in the EU.
Issue:
Charger Voltage variable and its description is misleading.
Initially I have set it to 400V and found out that automation always overshoot and started to oscillate.
In the same time, this was the FVE output:
Based on the Tesla in the EU we have 400V Wye grid.
Based on the this post Tesla in the EU uses 230V built in/onboard car charger and even in case when Tesla Wall Connector is used, 230V is used to charge the car. On the other side the car is able to stack/combine the energy from phase1, phase2 and phase3 aka (L1, L2, L3). Moreover to balance the load between phases the same current is always used on each of three phases.
The long story short, even in case when 3 phases are available, the difference in power when charging current is increase by 1 amp is (3(230*1))=690W*
When only one phase is available the difference is 230*1=230W
Workaround:
After I have changed the value of Charger Voltage to 690V (230*3) the automation works fine:
This was the output from the FVE in the same time:
Proposal:
Maybe it will be better if there is another input field:
Number of lines
Desc:
Number of lines provided by the EVSE aka Wallbox for the onboard charger?.
Eg: In the EU the Tesla Wall Connector and UMC gen 1 can utilize 3 phases, UMC gen2 utilizes single phase, only.
Then, the value that represent the minimal step should be computed as Charger Voltage * Number of lines
Change the description of Charger Voltage, to smth like:
The Line to N voltage.
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Thank you for the information. Glad you found the blueprint useful.
I've updated the description in the blueprint, ie.
description: Specify charger voltage in Volt. In Australia, single phase is 230V, and three phase is 400V due to 120 degree phase angle between phases. This can differ between countries.
Interesting that your 3 phases are in sync. Which country is this in EU?
Here you can find more info about voltages per country.
I am sure we have 120 degree phase angle between phases in Slovakia.
Tesla always measures voltage between Line and Neutral. That's the reason you cannot see 400V on tesla MCU. 400V is the voltage between Lines in 3phase wye(star) networks.
Today I started A/C while the car was still plugged to charger. I could see two phases were used at first and after few minutes the current on the second phase dropped to 0.
This means that car can selectively use one or more lines. But maybe that is not the case during the ac charging.
Hi @flashg1,
thank you for this blueprint, it had saved me a lot of time and motivated me to better understand HA automation!
In my case I am using it with Tesla Model S and Tesla Wall Connector gen 3 in the EU.
Issue:
![Screenshot 2024-05-26 at 22-36-43 History – Home Assistant](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4092388/333908966-163113ad-b2f9-47d0-a4dd-d5a1fa4e56e2.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJnaXRodWIuY29tIiwiYXVkIjoicmF3LmdpdGh1YnVzZXJjb250ZW50LmNvbSIsImtleSI6ImtleTUiLCJleHAiOjE3MjU5Mzg2MjYsIm5iZiI6MTcyNTkzODMyNiwicGF0aCI6Ii80MDkyMzg4LzMzMzkwODk2Ni0xNjMxMTNhZC1iMmY5LTQ3ZDAtYTRkZC1kNWExZmE0ZTU2ZTIucG5nP1gtQW16LUFsZ29yaXRobT1BV1M0LUhNQUMtU0hBMjU2JlgtQW16LUNyZWRlbnRpYWw9QUtJQVZDT0RZTFNBNTNQUUs0WkElMkYyMDI0MDkxMCUyRnVzLWVhc3QtMSUyRnMzJTJGYXdzNF9yZXF1ZXN0JlgtQW16LURhdGU9MjAyNDA5MTBUMDMxODQ2WiZYLUFtei1FeHBpcmVzPTMwMCZYLUFtei1TaWduYXR1cmU9NjAxNTMyOWM0YTlhM2Y0YTZmZTVlNzQ5YTc2ZTZjOTU4ODFhYzdkNmU1NTY3YWMyYWNlYmY0MzczZGYyYzEyZCZYLUFtei1TaWduZWRIZWFkZXJzPWhvc3QmYWN0b3JfaWQ9MCZrZXlfaWQ9MCZyZXBvX2lkPTAifQ.qpNB1yZPmLoai4734tt1MdxIDq91nZ-EBfnznG2ra4w)
Charger Voltage variable and its description is misleading.
Initially I have set it to 400V and found out that automation always overshoot and started to oscillate.
In the same time, this was the FVE output:
![Screenshot 2024-05-26 at 22-38-02 History – Home Assistant](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4092388/333909008-9f85b455-3d94-436d-8516-855cd08890a0.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJnaXRodWIuY29tIiwiYXVkIjoicmF3LmdpdGh1YnVzZXJjb250ZW50LmNvbSIsImtleSI6ImtleTUiLCJleHAiOjE3MjU5Mzg2MjYsIm5iZiI6MTcyNTkzODMyNiwicGF0aCI6Ii80MDkyMzg4LzMzMzkwOTAwOC05Zjg1YjQ1NS0zZDk0LTQzNmQtODUxNi04NTVjZDA4ODkwYTAucG5nP1gtQW16LUFsZ29yaXRobT1BV1M0LUhNQUMtU0hBMjU2JlgtQW16LUNyZWRlbnRpYWw9QUtJQVZDT0RZTFNBNTNQUUs0WkElMkYyMDI0MDkxMCUyRnVzLWVhc3QtMSUyRnMzJTJGYXdzNF9yZXF1ZXN0JlgtQW16LURhdGU9MjAyNDA5MTBUMDMxODQ2WiZYLUFtei1FeHBpcmVzPTMwMCZYLUFtei1TaWduYXR1cmU9OTFhNzA5OTc4MDk1ZDZiMDljZjIyYjVjOTEyNTMyNzZhOWExMWY0NzVhYTRlZTY4OTM0MDRmY2VmMWMyN2Y2NCZYLUFtei1TaWduZWRIZWFkZXJzPWhvc3QmYWN0b3JfaWQ9MCZrZXlfaWQ9MCZyZXBvX2lkPTAifQ.6dtofFfyFxCD2Gwa4XiS7KkbQ0K-zKQdU0cXyGTOViU)
Based on the Tesla in the EU we have 400V Wye grid.
Based on the this post Tesla in the EU uses 230V built in/onboard car charger and even in case when Tesla Wall Connector is used, 230V is used to charge the car. On the other side the car is able to stack/combine the energy from phase1, phase2 and phase3 aka (L1, L2, L3). Moreover to balance the load between phases the same current is always used on each of three phases.
The long story short, even in case when 3 phases are available, the difference in power when charging current is increase by 1 amp is (3(230*1))=690W*
When only one phase is available the difference is 230*1=230W
Workaround:
![Screenshot 2024-05-26 at 22-35-14 History – Home Assistant](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4092388/333909417-e81af050-066f-41ce-8dc5-468d52ff0835.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJnaXRodWIuY29tIiwiYXVkIjoicmF3LmdpdGh1YnVzZXJjb250ZW50LmNvbSIsImtleSI6ImtleTUiLCJleHAiOjE3MjU5Mzg2MjYsIm5iZiI6MTcyNTkzODMyNiwicGF0aCI6Ii80MDkyMzg4LzMzMzkwOTQxNy1lODFhZjA1MC0wNjZmLTQxY2UtOGRjNS00NjhkNTJmZjA4MzUucG5nP1gtQW16LUFsZ29yaXRobT1BV1M0LUhNQUMtU0hBMjU2JlgtQW16LUNyZWRlbnRpYWw9QUtJQVZDT0RZTFNBNTNQUUs0WkElMkYyMDI0MDkxMCUyRnVzLWVhc3QtMSUyRnMzJTJGYXdzNF9yZXF1ZXN0JlgtQW16LURhdGU9MjAyNDA5MTBUMDMxODQ2WiZYLUFtei1FeHBpcmVzPTMwMCZYLUFtei1TaWduYXR1cmU9YjU2ZjhiZTdlYzk3YTEwNDRmYzY5MDAxMmVkMjgyMmQ5OGJiNzc1NGM5Yjg3NTk2NGQ4MTUyZmNkZjJjZTNlYiZYLUFtei1TaWduZWRIZWFkZXJzPWhvc3QmYWN0b3JfaWQ9MCZrZXlfaWQ9MCZyZXBvX2lkPTAifQ.jz-L7vm67LE4SsH-KGxalW85hesbAejSZfa0RmaY9Mk)
After I have changed the value of Charger Voltage to 690V (230*3) the automation works fine:
This was the output from the FVE in the same time:
![Screenshot 2024-05-26 at 22-58-57 History – Home Assistant](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/4092388/333909467-93872f3f-6504-4f90-b3af-38da8381279b.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.en9zvlFSgLOdzzQeRpgAkqEKiz8ktJlW9JdGldrjqmE)
Proposal:
Number of lines
Desc:
Number of lines provided by the EVSE aka Wallbox for the onboard charger?.
Eg: In the EU the Tesla Wall Connector and UMC gen 1 can utilize 3 phases, UMC gen2 utilizes single phase, only.
Then, the value that represent the minimal step should be computed as Charger Voltage * Number of lines
The Line to N voltage.
The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: