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Goals for Node.js and Package Manager Version Management Effort #597

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# Goals for Node.js and Package Manager Version Management Effort

Help application developers to:

1. Define the correct Node.js runtime version and package manager version for projects.
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1. Install Node.js and a package manager for a local development environment.

1. Run the correct version of Node.js and of a package manager for each project.
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1. Define the correct Node.js runtime version and package manager version for projects.
1. Install Node.js and a package manager for a local development environment.
1. Run the correct version of Node.js and of a package manager for each project.
1. Define the correct Node.js runtime version and package manager version for each project.
1. Install the correct Node.js runtime version and package manager version for a local development environment.
1. Run the correct Node.js runtime version and package manager version for each project.

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I wonder if we can make this much simpler:

  • Define, run, and install the correct node version and package manager version

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Well 'correct' only makes sense in the context of a project, right? But users might also want to install Node onto their machine generally, before creating any projects or without any particular project in mind.

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Perhaps “specific”?

  • Define, run, and install a specific node version and package manager version globally or for a specific working directory

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Yeah we for sure want to be as simple and concise as possible, but the three we came up with proposed here attempted to disambiguate more than your proposed single line. The problem is we want to propose specific "product requirements" (as shown in "big doc proposal") but those overlap here. TBQH, I would rather land these if folks understand they are a stepping stone and can be evolved as we go forward (remember this is just a PR to the WG not a TSC agenda item or a new doc in the node core repo). If these are generally good IMO we just land them so we can all move on to the more important product requirements where we can bikeshed with more concrete topics.

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Ah interesting point, yeah agreed we want to avoid assumptions. Should we list out "application or library" or do you have a particular assumption you think folks mean which we want to avoid folks making?

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Replacing "project" with "working directory" SGTM

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I don’t think “working directory” makes sense. If I’m in app/routes and I have an app/package.json, it’s the package.json root that defines the project scope; I shouldn’t need another app/routes/package.json to repeat the version of Node to use for commands in app/routes. I know we might not define configuration based on package.json, but I also think it’s unlikely that we would want to define it separately in every folder within a project.

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Saying "Define the correct Node.js runtime version and package manager version for the current working directory" says nothing about having the config file in the same directory, it could be in a different one (the parent directory in your example)

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It implies that the unit we’re concerned with is the directory, when really what we’re focusing on is projects. Our goal here is to help users run the right software for their projects.