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Provider Reports - Beta 1.1.0 - Feedback #672
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Likely minor: The current definition states "The authenticated reports are monthly, historic flat files that may be pre-generated by the provider." Is there a reason these are specified as monthly? Could / should this not be variable, such as weekly, bi-monthly, etc.? |
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Reports allows to group trips and therefore users by
1 and 2 would render a single value, 3 and 4 have the potential to surface multiple geographies per trip. With multiple geographies, statistics become tricky. This would lead to overall statistics being lower than the sum of the statistics per geography, as a single trip could be linked to multiple geographies. I would propose we use start trip geography. If agreed upon, we should be more explicit in our current documentation:
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I also question if we really want all geography IDs to be included in the report results. Because geographies are also used for MDS Policy purposes, there are many very small geographies that correspond to, say, low speed areas or no ride areas. Do cities really care about the number of trips that start in such geographies? (In the case of no ride areas one would expect the numbers to always be under the k-anonymization threshold, so the row is telling you nothing at all really.) It seems to me that they are more interested in neighborhood or city level statistics. On a related note, many cities do not bother to provide a geography corresponding to the whole city, since they generally don't publish city-wide policies that way, but presumably they would generally want counts related to the whole city. I think it would make the most sense for geographies to somehow be explicitly indicated as being used for reports if desired, and if not explicitly indicated then left out. |
I agree that start trip geography makes sense for now. As my SFMTA colleagues and I start to work with the data, we might have other opinions, but that can inform any changes as Reports gets moved out of beta. |
We will be talking about beta feedback for this issue on next week's WG call. |
Since SFMTA is interested in trips taken on adaptive scooters, we added A little background: As part of SFMTA’s Powered Scooter Share Program, permittees are required to develop scooters that are more accessible to people with disabilities. SFMTA isn’t prescriptive about the particular design -- permittees were instructed to develop vehicles and corresponding services that are based on input from people with disabilities. More info about the program and what our permittes Lime, Spin, and Scoot have developed can be found here. This is part of a pilot that could inform future requirements. As such, SFMTA is interested in the usage of these adaptive scooters relative to the rest of the fleet. But since the total number of these adaptive scooters is relatively small, using identifiers in /trips for adaptive scooters presents re-identification concerns. Using the Reports endpoint to aggregate information about this subfleet is a better way to meet our reporting needs while protecting the privacy of the users of adaptive scooters. Adding |
Adding provider_id as a field in the CSV would be helpful since data from multiple providers is very likely to be combined. |
They could be variable, which is why the |
I'm not directly involved in any current micromobility operations, and don't know, for micromobility, of reporting needed other than monthly, and this report data is limited to micromobility services, so I can't cite an example where other periods are needed for that. That said, as the broader standard expands to include share mobility services, there are a number of jurisdictions that require regular reporting on an other than monthly basis. Indianapolis, last I looked into it, required quarterly reporting for shared mobility providers. Seattle requires quarterly reporting for share mobility and taxi providers. I believe the California Public Utilities Commission requires annual reporting from TNCs. |
Requirements are moving out of beta in 2.0 with #813 based on review by steering committee and working group. |
Gather feedback to see how we can move Provider Reports out of beta.
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Collect enough feedback, real-world usage, and requested updates/improvements to move this feature out of beta in a future release
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Leave as a beta feature for longer until we have feedback.
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