The next release (6.2.60) and betas (6.2.59b)

[ikedas]

Hi @everyone.

• Due date of the next stable (6.2.60) is proposed to be 21st Dec. 2020. postponed to early 2021.
• Maybe the first beta (6.2.59b.1) will come out around 24th Nov. 2020.

See also the milestone 6.2.60.

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2020-12-18 update

[racke]

This is probably also the release going into Debian 11 (bullseye).

[ikedas]

Drafted release announcement for 6.2.59b.1 (sign-in needed). Please check it and add anything you like.

[ikedas]

Done!

[xavierba]

@ldidry is there any plan for mhonarc.org website and domain ? My understanding is it was quite a bumpy ride to get the SCM, I assume it would be the same for mhonarc.org, but I thought I'd ask.

[ldidry]

No, no plan. You may ask, but I don’t know if you will succeed 🤷

[racke]

And if that is even worth it 😇

[ikedas]

We seem to need one more beta, 6.2.59b.2. I suggest its date around 7th Dec.

[ikedas]

Done!

[xavierba]

FWIW, sympa 6.2.59 beta 2 is available in sympa-beta COPR for all supported Fedora and RHEL/CentOS releases.
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/xavierb/sympa-beta

[ikedas]

Release of 6.2.60

Don't get your priorities wrong. As announced, release of the next stable version of Sympa is planned to be at 21st Dec., 7 days after. As asked by release announcement of the beta, "Please install it to test and report bugs, translate user interface to your language, or enhance documentation of Sympa, if you want to help the Sympa community deliver a more reliable version of Sympa." This is the last chance!

• Check proposed update of release notes: Release 6.2.60 #1056, and add your comments and fixes as necessity.
  • Most of items need not confirmed as they are auto-generated by github_changelog_generator. The items in Changes should be confirmed and elaborated.

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[ikedas]

• Check release announcement: https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa/releases (sign-in needed)

• See description in Upgrading Notes: (Same as "Changes" section in NEWS.md)

[dverdin]

What does this sentence mean? "however, listmasters are recommended to review whether wide range of conversion as previous versions is required."

Is it normal the upgrade notes and NEWS.md lead to a 404 ?

[racke]

That means that TT tags in the body are no longer evaluated unless you enable them in the configuration. This should be flagged as backward incompatibility.

[dverdin]

I know what's in the code change, thank you. It is the release note sentence that is unclear.
Reformulation proposal:

Listmasters are encouraged to review the lists in which personalization is enabled and estimate whether body personalization is really needed before reverting to the previous behaviour.

[racke]

My two cents:

Listmasters are advised to review lists with personalization (merge_feature) enabled and determine whether template variables are used in the body of the emails.

That's incomplete, but I strongly suggests that we bring up the documentation up to speed with the new configuration option before the release.

[racke]

That means that TT tags in the body are no longer evaluated unless you enable them in the configuration. This should be flagged as backward incompatibility.

So that's my suggestion to highlight these kind of changes:

ikedas#1

[ikedas]

Postponement of release of 6.2.60

Release of 6.2.60 will be postponed for more reliable debugging and better documentation.

I propose Monday, 4th January 2021 (UTC) as new release date.

[racke]

Sounds good to me.

[racke]

I plan to run more tests with personalization and writing documentation for it this year, so it will be ready for the 6.2.60 release.

[ikedas]

@racke, are changes on translated text possible? If they are, could you please let us know early? I'll announce postponement to translators' list so that they will be able to update translation.

[racke]

Yes I think so. How much time do they need? One week?

[ikedas]

I don't know, but one week or more is desirable.

[racke]

Ok in that case I refrain from text translations up until the release of 6.2.60, so let us pass it to the translators.

[ikedas]

I (hopefully) solved the issue I have deferred (#1036). From now on I'll check the things reported by the other folks.

[ikedas]

6.2.60 will be out in 4th Jan

6.2.60 will be out around 4th Jan 2021 08:00 UTC.

[ikedas]

Done!

[racke]

Thanks a lot. Debian package follows when previous version enters testing (hopefully tomorrow).

[ikedas]

Thank you so much helping release of new version!

[xavierba]

sympa 6.2.60 as well as mhonarc 2.6.24 are on their way to Fedora/EPEL

[racke]

Debian package for Sympa 6.2.60 uploaded. This is the Sympa release which is going to be shipped with Debian 11 (bullseye) unless we need to make an emergency release.