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MultiStomps not displaying injected effects. #11
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Thanks for the reporting! |
Ah great! Hopefully that does the trick. |
Some technical info related to FLST_SEQ. Effects should be inserted into the correct group inside the FLST_SEQ. There are 11 different ZDL-effect types/groups:
Effect type can be read from ZDL-file. |
Ah, I see. So there's a specific order that the effects need to be in... Is this universal? |
I just added the FLST_SEQ.ZDT file update. I hope that problem with multistomps is now solved. Could you please download that special version and try with 70CDR and 50G? |
Ah, terrific! Thanks for that. |
I just noticed that the effects display in a different order on the pedal's display with the official firmware and modified one. The effects are in the new order, Z-Tron is down and Corona is up, whereas in the original Stereo Bass is down from the THRU page and Tremolo is up. I also tried installing the modified firmware without any extra effects injected. It doesn't freeze when you cross over the THRU page. I hope some of this might help. |
Thank you very much for the testing and feedback! |
Interesting... BASSMUFF.ZDL from MS-60B makes my B1Xon freeze. Alone or with the CMN_BASS.DRV. Finally I am able to reproduce the bug. :-) |
Thanks for all the effort on this! I feel like we're getting closer. |
ZoomFirmwareEditor_0.99.3.zip - with "effect type" column. |
Could you try to inject that effect? |
ZoomFirmwareEditor_0.99.4_CDR.zip - experimental version for CDR, theoretically should work with _BAZZMUF.zip |
Ah great! I'll give these a go and get back to you.
Fingers crossed!
Thanks.
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Success! 0.99.3 with your _bazzmuff zip worked. |
So, just making sure I’m doing this right and not wasting your time here… To extract the effect/s I load the ZoomFirmwareEditor .jar file. |
Oh right! I didn’t realise that I should have been editing the hex too. |
ZoomFirmwareEditor_0.99.5.zip - added automatic type replacement for multistomp pedals.
These effect files are usually not recognised by the computer and it's normal. But you can use any hex-editor in order to view their content (if I understood you question correctly). |
Oh dear, that's back to freezing and not displaying the injected effect. What I meant was, there was something different about the bazzmuff effect that you'd extracted and how my computer was reading it. The Mac OS was giving it an "exec" icon, whereas everything I've extracted is a blank, unrecognised file icon. |
Not sure if this'll be any help, but here's the file as I've extracted it. |
But your BASSMUFF.ZDL is extracted from MS60B... Please, try effects from Zoom B1on/B1Xon. :-) |
Ah right. Sorry, I forgot about that bit... |
So, on the 70CDR it only seems to accept ZDLs from the B1ON. Not G1ON or MS50G. |
It should accept guitar effects too. ZDL-files from MS50G and G1on are identical. If you have a problem with any ZDL from G1ON or MS50G, then please write the file names. That will help a lot! And once again, thank you very much for helping with testing! |
Ok. Sorry aboyut the delay. I'm back with some more time to tinker. |
Ha, I spoke too soon. So, I managed to get the _B_FZSML, and _B_SQUEK on. Then added _BASS_TS, BASSDRV and BASSMUFF. Then it started to freeze again. I then took them back off one by one until it stopped freezing. Seems like the BASSDRV is a problem too. _GKruger amp is fine. MarkB freezes. I still have CMN_BASS injected. B_AtWah freezes it. Seems like 60B ZDL effects that don't start with an underscore will freeze it. I'll have a much around with the B1ON effects now. |
I've noticed that the order you put things in doesn't seem to make a difference to how they display on the pedal. I'm just dumping them all down the bottom and they're listing in an order, probably the effect order you posted above. |
Yes, the effects are currently ordered simply by their types: 01, 02, 03, 0C, 0D, 14, 16, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 0B. I'm still thinking how to fix the functionality of "Move up" and "Move down" buttons. They should move the effect only inside the appropriate group. And the initial effects order may be read from the FLST_SEQ.ZDT list (but not all files described there: drum samples, cmd_drv etc).
Today I'm going to experiment with MS60B bass effects on my B1Xon pedal: I'll try to replace their |
You could you have a column for the effect types, and then set the column to be adjustable alphabetically and numerically via the column title tab. Oh, but that would only change the order according to the firmware file list, not how the pedal is reading and listing the effects internally. Good luck with the MS60B! Let me know how you go with it. |
Glad to see progress, but can you confirm whether latest version (as above #11 (comment)) should automatically change the ZT2 file - or do we need to manual do it and re-upload to F/W? For me it seems to stay the same
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I downloaded the ZoomFirmwareEditor_0.99.5.zip version (Latest I could find here) and used it to extract the DISTPLUS.ZDL, FUZZSML.ZDL, and GRTMUFF.ZDL files from the "ZOOM MS-50G System v3.10 Updater.exe" file... I then opened the "ZOOM MS-70CDR v2.00 Updater.exe" and injected the new .ZDL files. I loaded the "MODIFIED ZOOM MS-70CDR v2.00 Updater.exe" into the MS-70 CDR and the injected .ZDL files were not present. Not sure what else I might try to get this to work. Love the idea on this project... Love MS-70 CDR but I'd like to get some Fuzz and Distortion out of it as well. Thanks for all your hard work. |
Injecting the CMN_DRV.ZDL file along with the other files extracted from the MS-50 G firmware worked. I finally have Fuzz and Distortion on the MS-70 CDR. I couldn't be happier. |
Thanks for the confirmation, that MS-50 fuzz and distortion work on CDR-70.
ZT2 creation is not ready yet. I will continue to implement that part during the next week (currently don't have time). |
Hi, I would like to flash in the mS50g the effects from the ms70cdr that are missing like all those prefixed with "Ba". How should I do it? |
I had this same issue. There’s something odd about the MS bass effects. It was suggested to source them from the B1ON instead. That allowed me to inject bass effects onto my 70CDR. |
any news about ZT2 conversion? |
In case anyone still cares to have the "new" (as non-B1on style) MS-60B Bass AMP and DRV effects, it's possible to make them function on MS-50G/MS-70CDR; effects like These "new" effects make use of common functionality, which was split off into All the freezes, as observed above, were caused by the fact that the "new" Bass AMP and DRV effects simply lacked the needed code loaded, even though the So to get around this, it's possible to simply "inject" the Obviously, this approach excludes the use of all of the MS-50G Guitar AMP and DRV effects, because they need the "real" The deal about the CAB is that the Bass CAB is tagged in ZDL as BCAB, that's what the MS-60B firmware is expecting. Yet the Not sure how viable it is to alter this directly in the MS-50G/MS-70CDR "custom" firmware without danger of bricking the pedal. Another alternative is to consider merging both |
As for the "underscored" MS-60B Bass effects (like Again, the issue here also seems to point to the lack of The "underscored" effects are migrated from B1on. Even though mostly they are the same, some parts (the CAB handing) differ; also the MS-60B AMP ZDL are smaller. The sounding appears mostly identical. |
What an exciting project! I’ve been hoping someone might do something like this after Zoom added the extra effects to the 50G. Finally, it’s happening!
I’ve tried this on two 70CDR and a 50G. I’ve tried the editor on a windows 10 computer and a Mac 10.13.
On both 70CDR they didn’t show the injected effect, but would freeze when scrolling up when it got to the Bass Equaliser effect.
The 50G didn’t show anything but didn’t freeze.
I was trying to inject BassMuff from the 60B.
Anything else I could try?
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