New - Navignore solution - Needs more testing

[harman-f]

With one of the latest commits a new navignore java patches were introduced.

@TheVaan was so nice and merged all the existing patch solutions into two versions. Each one is potentially good for CP and AA
Check here for details: https://github.com/harman-f/MHI2_navignore/tree/main/thevaan

1. jar for VW/Skoda/Seat
2. jar for Audi/Porsche/Bentley

This needs testing!

These solutions are not yet included into a release version, hence you have to get the latest code from GIT repro directly.
Installation can be done via GEM menu - based on train the fitting jar will be installed to unit.

How you can help:

• Please report back with your FW version and if you used CP and/or AA.
• Can you activate Siri with CP or Google assistant with AA using voice button into steering wheel with long pushing and audi voice control with short button pushing - thanks @Leor2208
• Pictures are always welcome as well ;)

Status:
CP confirmed on:

• MHI2_ER_AU37x_P4159
• MHI2_ER_POG24_XXXX
• MHI2Q_ER_AUG22_P4212
• MHI2Q_ER_AUG22_P3638
• MHI2_ER_AUG22_K3346
• MHI2Q ER AUG22 P5092 MU1329
• MHI2_CN_AUG22_K0730
• MHI2Q CN AUG22 P1002
• MHI2 SKG13 MU1440

AA confirmed on:

• MHI2_ER_AUG22_K3346
• MHI2Q_ER_AUG22_P5092 MU1329

Functions confirmed for CP on Audi/Porsche:
✅ Dual navigation functionality
✅ Siri functionality and activation by long pressing voice button on steering wheel
✅ Audi voice control functionality and activation by short pressing voice button on steering wheel
✅ Incoming notifications (Messages, Telegram) display on MMI upon arrival
✅ Compass in VC/AID not active/visible

Start car navigation 1st if you want to have dual navigation.

• Start navigation on CP -> VC shows map, MMI shows map -> start navigation on MMI -> CP navigation stops, VC shows route, MMI shows route
• Start navigation on MMI -> start navigation on CP -> CP & MMI navigations active, VC shows route, MMI shows route

[cimbru1]

Eager to try this on my A4 B9 MHI2Q. Will test and come back with feedback. Thank you!

[Jackie264]

MHI2Q_CN_AUG22_K1004_MU1003 both CP and AA confirmed

[Transporter03]

Hello, I apologize if this is not correct thread but I have a question and need some help. I have 2023 Audi A4 quattro, navigation license was not purchased with the car. Is there a way to add navigation license without having to pay $85 a month for the service? Any help is appreciated. Thank you

[TheVaan]

I can confirm on:

Audi A3 8VA
MHI2_ER_AU37x_P4159
CarPlay

I'll try to get my hands on an Android device. By end of the week I'm going to try it on a Q7 4M with CP.

[harman-f]

Nice, please also have a look towards other behaviours.

It seems, that this might also block pop-ups for incoming messages.
In one case, a tester is using one of these AI boxes, which run a full Android system via CP.

He noticed, that the box also stopped to interrupt on board navigation after applying the patch.

Android AI Box via CP:

[TheVaan]

I can confirm Siri (long press) and Audi (short press) are still working in current unreleased version.

[TheVaan]

It seems, that this might also block pop-ups for incoming messages.

You mean on iPhone incoming messages?

[cimbru1]

Cimbru1 siri and audi assistant working simultaneusly and dual navigation in audi a4 b9? What version have you?
I cannot test yet because i dont have the car here

I have not tested this update just yet. Will try it either this evening or tomorrow. I was only confirming to @harman-f that this functionality was there before with the official release V3.4.1. My version is MHI2Q_ER_AUG22_P4212.

[Leor2208]

In another car that applied the old dual navigation had problem with this function (local assistant and siri)
jilleb/mib2-toolbox#214

[TheVaan]

Oh, you meant the focus of AA / CP, not the voice command. Well it did not push CP to the front. Tbh I like that. Either I've CP visible or not. When not visible, I only give music commands to siri and I don't want to see Siri while processing them.

[TheVaan]

I found a little "bug" with CP on MHI2_ER_AU37x_P4159:
When starting navigation on CP first, then switching to MMI Navi starting a route there, the CP navigation stops. You have to start MMI navigation first, then CP. Didn't noticed that when trying first time bc my only wish was to see the map (without routing) in VC when navigating with CP instead of this disgusting compass.

I did not test incoming messages while navigating for now. I'll try to test this, but can't promise.

[TheVaan]

No, I've not decompiled the lsd.jxe jet. The tool I found did not run on my environment and I had no time so far to setup a virtual env.

[andrewleech]

Ah, allowing both to navigate at once took me a fair bit more effort to get working initially, it was patching in separate places to the "just keeping the map screen visible". I was certainly hopeful that this new patch would have covered both...

[elrabas]

good morning friend, I have edited the NavActiveIgnore file with the new data from that file that is here
3dc9ea1#diff-d51034f7b30456dd90992b8b7125b8ecb05fbbff3b513ee1728547924c

the result in my A4 B9 with version MHI2_ER_AUG22_K3346 -MU1438 is that it doesn't work, it keeps telling me that it's not compatible with audi, which files should I edit? Do you have any edited that I can add to the MIB (SD) apps folder and do it directly?

No, I've not decompiled the lsd.jxe jet. The tool I found did not run on my environment and I had no time so far to setup a virtual env.

[TheVaan]

@elrabas you need to download this one: https://github.com/Mr-MIBonk/M.I.B._More-Incredible-Bash/archive/81a7032d65db66af6466792a35650bd5be87231f.zip this is based on 81a7032

[elrabas]

thank you very much, got it

@elrabas you need to download this one: https://github.com/Mr-MIBonk/M.I.B._More-Incredible-Bash/archive/81a7032d65db66af6466792a35650bd5be87231f.zip this is based on 81a7032

[cimbru1]

I confirm this is working great on my Audi A4 B9 MHI2Q_ER_AUG22_P4212. Only tested CP for now as I don’t have access to any Android device atm.

✅ Dual navigation functionality
✅ Siri functionality and activation by long pressing voice button on steering wheel
✅ Audi voice control functionality and activation by short pressing voice button on steering wheel
✅ Incoming notifications (Messages, Telegram) display on MMI upon arrival

Same behaviour as @TheVaan pointed out in regards to active dual navigation (i.e. route needs to be first set into the car navigation then into CP navigation for both to actively work). Anyhow, I don’t know why anyone would want both active due to potential clashing voice instructions from the two which may likely create confusion to the driver and risk of accidents. I am satisfied with having only one active with route guidance and alerts (CP one most likely due to live traffic information), yet both displayed (no more ugly compass on the VC).

Nothing else to report for now. Everything seems to work flawlessly. Many thanks!

[durchblicker1]

Hi, very cool! I have the same Unit (MHI2Q) but with Software 5092.

But I didn't get it, where to place these Files: https://github.com/harman-f/MHI2_navignore/tree/main/thevaan
I download them and place the files from AA_CP_Audi folder into the M.I.B. from here: https://github.com/Mr-MIBonk/M.I.B._More-Incredible-Bash/archive/81a7032d65db66af6466792a35650bd5be87231f.zip
More specific: I placed the files under /mod/java/ where also the file "NavActiveIgnore.jar" is.

But while starting the Patch in GreenMenu with M.I.B. it says that Audi is not supported.
What did I wrong? Thanks

regards,

[harman-f]

Just get the latest code from this repo.
the other one was just linked in case someone wanted to look into the Java code in detail.

Lastest code here has the fitting patch and code to install them via GEM.

[durchblicker1]

Oh wow. That was quick! Thank you very much. So just M.I.B. v.3.4.1 and go. Nothing more to modify? Will test it!

[durchblicker1]

Hi,

thanks again. With the latest code I managed it to install the navactiveignore patch!

will test ist tomorrow with Apple CarPlay.

Regards,

[durchblicker1]

forgot to give a report... Patch works fine with MIHQ2 5092 and Carplay

[Leor2208]

I would like to say, thanks for your work, you are awesome

[elrabas]

Thank you very much to all of you who have made it possible for this "simultaneous" Navigation to work.
I confirm its operation with CarPlay in an Audi A4 B9 2017 version MHI2_ER_AUG22_K3346 -MU1438
verified operation of:
-Dual navigation
-Audi voice commands and Siri
-Visible notifications on MMi screen

Now I can enjoy google maps with real-time traffic on the MMi screen and in VirtualCockpit not have a black screen/compass and see an Audi map

Thank you!

[Monk618]

Can you write me please step by step how to install it?

[harman-f]

Nobody can test AA or on a non Audi car ^^

[catatonicChimp]

I might need to reflash the firmware and start from scratch, I realised I had MIB toolbox installed and had previously tried the nav-active setup from there.

removing your (nav-ignore) implementation then removing the (nav-active) patch in MIB toolbox (and then uninstalling mib toolbox) and then reinstalling your nav-ignore patch resulted in standard car play operations, but still getting the navigation active on mobile device when I start route guidance on car play and starting VW navigation kills the nav via car play.

[harman-f]

If you removed files with both solution, that should be finde.
I have another report, where the patch did not work.
So your reply fits the picture :(

I will have another look into the java code, but tracing this down is not that straigth forward ;)

[harman-f]

@catatonicChimp
NavActiveIgnore_CP_VW.zip
Could you give this file a try?

[catatonicChimp]

@catatonicChimp

NavActiveIgnore_CP_VW.zip

Could you give this file a try?

No luck here with that file, active display still goes to "navigation on mobile device" when starting CarPlay nav

[harman-f]

I see, looks more like we have to combine the 3? solutions we do have now.
Shoudl cover all use cases.

[NumberOneBot]

I can confirm, works just fine.

Audi A3, Harman MIB2H

[TheVaan]

I can confirm Q7 4M and CarPlay:
MHI2Q_ER_AUG22_P3638

[jcasanova83]

Hi! I can confirm its works in Q5 FY and Carplay
MHI2Q ER AUG22 P5092 MU1329

[serjio21]

Hi!
MHI2_ER_SEG11_P4709 AA isn't working.

[TheVaan]

Do you have a private repo with the source code? I can take a look on it. I don’t have the time to setup an environment for unpacking and packing the jxe but I worked several years as java dev so I could give it a try.

[Errivincenz]

Seems like we have to combine all the patch solution we have seen so far.

This one is good for CP on Porsche/Audi and most likely also Bentley The original one from @andrewleech was good for VW/Skoda/Seat for both CP and AA, right? And @Errivincenz created one working for AA on Audi.

That should cover it ;) Just have add these to M.I.B and select the right patch based on the train running on the unit.

I would like to try this new solution, so far I haven't been able to find the time but maybe this weekend...
@harman-f in this latest solution what java class has been modified? I would like to look at the code.

If it really doesn't work for AA, combining all the patch solution could be the answer, great team work!

[harman-f]

Have a look here:
https://github.com/harman-f/MHI2_navignore

[Leor2208]

Hi! For audi a4 b9 if i apply the actual solution, i only have dual nav to CP?
If you can combine both solutions what will be the procedure to apply the new solution?

[harman-f]

@Leor2208
yes, we are working on that angle ;)

[elysion0619]

I can confirm on Audi A4 B9
MHI2_CN_AUG22_K0730
CarPlay

[harman-f]

With the latest commit new navignore java patches were introduced.
562c0c3

@TheVaan was so nice and merged all the existing patch solutions into two versions. Each one is potentially good for CP and AA
Check here for details: https://github.com/harman-f/MHI2_navignore/tree/main/thevaan

1. jar for VW/Skoda/Seat
2. jar for Audi/Porsche/Bentley

This needs testing now!

These solutions are not yet included into a release version, hence you have to get the latest code from GIT repro directly.
Installation can be done via GEM menu - based on train the fitting jar will be installed to unit.

[catatonicChimp]

Tested on my VW unit, still no go on it
MHI2_ER_VWG13_K4525

[harman-f]

I just added an output of the jar folder to LOG file.
Could you grep latest version from repo, try to install again and post the LOG?

I want to make sure, that there are no old *.jars on the system, which might break the new patch.

[catatonicChimp]

yip will try to do that today sometime :)

[catatonicChimp]

RCC-installjava---->
lsd.sh is already patched
-- Install NavActiveIgnore
total 516
drwxrwxrwx  2 root      root           1024 Jan 01  1970 .
drwxrwxrwx  8 root      root           1024 Jan 01  1970 ..
-rwxrwxrwx  1 root      root         250996 Apr 23  2018 GEM.jar
-rwxrwxrwx  1 root      root           7624 Feb 01 23:17 NavActiveIgnore.jar
-rwxrwxrwx  1 root      root           2923 Apr 23  2018 nullservice.jar
NavActiveIgnore.jar already present on unit.
Will be updated with file from SD now
NavActiveIgnore.jar installed.
Unit will reboot now
Reboot Unit...

[harman-f]

files do look OK, so this is the patch not working :(

@TheVaan any ideas?

[harman-f]

@catatonicChimp
I just switched the "old" jar made by @andrewleech back into the repo for the VW/SEAT/SKODA solution.
Feel free to test again.

[skamyra]

Should I install MIB2 High toolbox?

[skamyra]

M.I.B._More-Incredible-Bash
are you talking about this program?
would it be ok for my FW?

[skamyra]

M.i.b. toolbox!!!

[skamyra]

MHI2_ER_VWG13_P4525 (1367)I'm sorry if I'm bothering you with all these questions, but before proceeding I'd better switch to the..MHI2_ER_VWG13_P4525 (1367). version I have you advise me to stick with my Fw

[skamyra]

@harman-f


WORKING BOTH ON ANDROID AUTO / CARPLAY

The only problem I see is the transition from Android Auto to Carplay, before it gave me the option to choose how you see it in the photo, now if I exit Android I see a Black screen!!!

[skamyra]

VW ( MHI2_ER_VWG13_K4525 MU1367 ) TIGUAN MK2

[Tumero97]

Hello,

Can you help me get information about Delphi units? I can't seem to find a solution or answer. Is it possible to get information about this?

Thank you in advance for your time and I apologize for bothering you.

[harman-f]

no infromation about delphi here.

[Tumero97]

Hello,

I know is just and only HARMAN unit here.

Just for information its work on Delphi units too by this tuto => https://www.drive2.ru/b/647754736589611644/

Just translate with open IA no Google...

[Sajmon80]

Witam
Czy ktoś testował na MH2p_ER_AU_P2711?

[iRrromka]

I have 3663 installed at my au57x with MIB2. Can I be helpful making logs/tests and so on?

[T-Bone90]

I have Seat Leon with MIB STD2 ZR Technisat and for me, Navignore is not working in VC. I have used the Toolbox mib-std2-pq-zr-toolbox (https://github.com/olli991/mib-std2-pq-zr-toolbox), active the patch and start CarPlay Navigation. Now the card is gone, the screen is black and the default message about a mobile navigation is there.
Is there any solution about this error?

[T-Bone90]

Thanks for the info. Funny, because it was just integrated into Olli's toolbox, which is exactly for my

[harman-f]

No idea which patch he integrated. We only know about MHI2 here ;)

[andrewleech]

Oh sorry, I see now that yes someone did indeed port it into that toolbox, I'm surprised it's possible but it looks like maybe it is!
My original CP patch only worked on the latest versions on Harman, I don't know what the firmware version limitations might be on Technisat but that's my best guess to the issue.

[andrewleech]

There might be more helpful details here: https://www.drive2.ru/l/647383926293153054/

[T-Bone90]

Thanks for your help. After I exchanged the file "navignore_vw.jar", it works perfectly now.

[brucemiranda]

@harman-f just check the installjava app again. For the Audi, Porsche and Bentley, you aren't inserting the comment "Find and append jar files" and yet you are looking for it to determine if the lsd file should be patched or not. This will land up with that file being patched multiple times, if the script is rerun.

[brucemiranda]

@harman-f has the above reported error been fixed yet?

[cgeist]

Thanks for the wonderful toolset! Would love to have dual nav for FIS (rather than VC), too. Any plans/ambitions to enable for MHI2_ER_SKG11_K3343_1? Or is there any other source that I should check for such?

[Vampi1999]

Hello everyone

I have a question, does it work on version MHI2Q_ER AUG22_P5092?

[Transporter03]

Hello, I apologize if this is not correct thread but I have a question and need some help. I have 2023 Audi A4 quattro, navigation license was not purchased with the car. Is there a way to add navigation license without having to pay $85 a month for the service? Any help is appreciated. Thank you

[brucemiranda]

You have a MIB3 which is not supported.

[adrianmihalko]

I spent my afternoon to upgrade FW and install MIB:

0. MHI2_ER_VWG11_S2125_1 (original FW, it was very old so I decided to upgrade)
1. MHI2_ER_VWG11_P3301_MU0814 (middle version)
2. MHI2_ER_VWG11_K3342_MU1427 (latest version for my unit)

I did it, because I’d kill for a MMI & phone navigation at the same time. The upgrade was successful.

After that I successfully installed MIB (version 3.6), then went to settings and enabled navignore patch. The very big problem is that when I enable navignore patch, I can no longer connect via CarPlay. I saw here your comment that I need AIO patch. I tried that too (despite I have CarPlay&Android Car from factory), but the problem remains.

When I enable navignore patch: I can not connect my iPhone
When I disable navignore patch: I can connect my iPhone

I also recorded some videos when the patch is on:

https://youtube.com/shorts/R40UwOVkVKk

It seems like it's timed out.

Any help appreciated, I really want it to work.

[iana007]

I have exactlly the same problem like you. I did the ame steps like you, but the patch is not working. Carplay gets broken. Somebody was suggesting to run the AIO package and after that apply the Carplay fix. I do not want to run the AIO as I am affraid to mess up the coding. Also, to be honest I think the Head unit was faster on the 3301 update. Let me know if you find a solution to this issue.

[adrianmihalko]

There is a progress over there: jilleb/mib2-toolbox#189 (comment)

[iana007]

Thank you very much for the update, I will follow that thread.

[Ivar247]

Hey it’s working for me but I upgraded to a bit newer mib 2.5 version. Not sure if I posted when I still had my older setup

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[lechito82]

AUDI A5 - 2019
MHI2Q_ER_AUG22_P5152
CP - OK
AA - Not tested

Button short - OK
Button long press - OK
SIRI - OK
Navigation search - OK

thank You !!

[toomanybuttons]

Hi guys, do you know how to activate navignore function for version MHS2_ER_AU_P2035 ? I'm tired of seeing just the damn compass.

I've found something here (need translation): https://www.drive2.com/b/652343273490220966/

Also activated with VCDS:

coding with obdeleven or VCDS:
Module 5F - Multimedia/Information Electronics
Adaptation
Dashboard_Display_Configuration (0B5A)
navigation_map_transmission_mode --> New value: _MOST_Streaming
navigation_map_compression_mode --> New value: _H264
navigation_map_Resolution --> New value: _resolution_1

For the navigation in cockpit screen, first I activated compas tab:

1. Select control unit: Module 17 - Dashboard
2. Select long coding
3. Select navigation/compas,
4. Change value from No to Yes
   or in
   Module 17 - Dashboard
   Long coding
   Navigation / compass => must by ON/YES => (byte 10 / bit 6 / on 1)

[pergolafabio]

Hey, is it also possible to display Android Auto/Carplay on the Virtual Cockpit?

[Desmios]

Hi, mine is MHI2_ER_VWG13_P4512, and it has these files, can anyone help me and know what to do?