Pellet usage / consumption -> No values #23
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Hi, the problem with the pellets is related to the software version of the compacts, you have to update the compact to 4.02ap
… Il giorno 1 apr 2023, alle ore 09:18, Macintras ***@***.***> ha scritto:
Hallo @dominikamann <https://github.com/dominikamann>,
erst mal vielen vielen Dank für dieses wundervolle Modul & Integration.
Sowas werde ich natürlich supporten (donate).
Ich bin seit 2 Tagen glücklicher Besitzer einer Ökofen Pellematic Compact (14 KW).
Ich konnte die Anlage mit dem Addon auch super einbinden und erhalte soweit alle Werte, ausgenommen die verbrauchten Pellets (heute, gestern etc.).
Muss ich dafür einen zusätzlichen Sensor haben oder liegt es daran dass die Anlage "nur" den Softwarestand 4.0b.hat?
Des Weiteren ist mir noch unklar wie ich den Wert "Pellet Storage Level" auf den tatsächlichen Füllwert stellen kann. Oder liegt dies auch an dem Sensor?
Ich danke euch für den Support!
VG
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Thank you lucaferrucci for solving the problem so quickly. |
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No, unfortunately no, you have to download the update onto a USB stick and run the update, version 4.0 is not stable at all as it is the first version of a new release with all the problems that follow.
I sent Dominik all the data, I don't know, he can send you everything in the private email.

… Il giorno 3 apr 2023, alle ore 11:14, Macintras ***@***.***> ha scritto:
Thank you lucaferrucci for solving the problem so quickly.
It's a pity that my Compact was delivered with version 4.00 last week. The technician said that would be the most stable version.
Can I simply have Ökofen carry out the update "over the air"?
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Excellent! If you need my e-mail address or other data, please contact me. |
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ok, give me your mail
… Il giorno 3 apr 2023, alle ore 11:46, Macintras ***@***.***> ha scritto:
Excellent! If you need my e-mail address or other data, please contact me.
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Thanks, my adress [email protected] |
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dropbox link to 4.02b |
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@Macintras For me, it was enough to set the initial filling once (Ökofen Touch-Panel / system). After that, the consumption is automatically deducted. See picture. I do not have sensors in the fabric tank. It is best to let the heating installer do the update. Of course I can forward you the german instruction papers and update details I received from @lucaferrucci. As @lucaferrucci (Ökofen Pro 😉) said, if the other sensors work (values available in HA), then it is related to the old software version.
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Hello Dominik. I wanted to set the initial filling within the Ökofen UI (V. 4.02b). But I am desperately trying to find where this is possible. I was hoping you could give a short hint (I dont have a system area)? Thanks :-) |
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Hi, my Pellematic did this automatically after the update by the service technician. Maybe @lucaferrucci has a tip for you. |
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hello, good morning, the ash measurement function must be enabled in pellematic otherwise it is not available via json. |
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@dominikamann @lucaferrucci many thanks for the help. |
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Hi, thank you for this great integration. I have a OKOFEN Pellematic Compact 12 kW with a pellet tank and an aspiration system. There is no weight sensor and apparently there is no (functioning ?)sensor at all that could allow me to estimate the consumption. The software version is 4.00b, I tried to update OTA, but it is not working, should I update to 4.02ap via USB ? Is it possible that my Pellematic does not have any weight sensor ? |
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you have the same problem as me. Dominik & Luca sent me the changelog, only with 4.01 was it even possible to adjust the filling quantity of the pellet tank. According to the documentation, since 4.02 only the consumption display (today / yesterday) and the subtraction from the set delivery quantity have worked, and you do not need a separate sensor in the pellet store. |
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OK thanks ! |
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hello, version 4.01 has a baug and forgets the consumption of the previous day, then to increase the accuracy of the warehouse it waits for the intermediate tank to be empty to always suck up 31kg of pellets, it uses the 2 zwb sensors of the tank, the vacuum and the full.
… Il giorno 4 apr 2023, alle ore 01:47, Julien Grossholtz ***@***.***> ha scritto:
Hi, thank you for this great integration. I have a OKOFEN Pellematic Compact 12 kW with a pellet tank and an aspiration system. There is no weight sensor and apparently there is no (functioning ?)sensor at all that could allow me to estimate the consumption.
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The software version is 4.00b, I tried to update OTA, but it is not working, should I update to 4.02ap via USB ? Is it possible that my Pellematic does not have any weight sensor ?
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OK, so it means that with newer software version the intermediate tank is no longer filled at a configured hour ? Sounds good. For now there is no available update via the touch interface. I also did not find any download page on the website. 4.01 and 4.02 are private alpha/beta releases ? |
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All versions are installed via USB, it is not possible to install via OTA.
The download area is accessible to technicians, if you think you are able to carry out the update independently I can send you the data.

… Il giorno 4 apr 2023, alle ore 09:36, Julien Grossholtz ***@***.***> ha scritto:
OK thanks !
If I understand well, the 4.02 has not been released yet and is only installable via USB.
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Hey @lucaferrucci , |
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@JGrossholtz & @Macintras If you do the update, let me know your update experience 😉. Can you please also tell us your mail address, then we can forward you the documents and files ... |
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Hi @dominikamann , here it my email . edit: remove email to avoid spam ! |
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@JGrossholtz this is the reason why I did not do the update myself. There are some documents but they are not really helpful. I will send them to you. I was also very surprised that (F)OTA is not possible. I wrote to Ökofen regarding this issue. They confirmed it -> "Call your installer, he can do the update with the help of a USB-Stick". My installer was not even able to configure the heater optimally. Thanks to @lucaferrucci, my heater now works nearly perfectly ... . He helped me to optimize the configuration 👍 I will may try the update this summer when it's not cold outside 😅 |
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Thanks I received your email with the procedure. I am in the same case, right now it is still cold outside so I think I will wait for now. |
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If you update to 4.02 the problem is solved, calculate the exact consumption.
They added the calibration function that done once a year, the system becomes quite accurate.
However don't be afraid to run the update, the operation is quite simple, the precaution is to have an empty usb stick, insert it, save all the settings and then update with the new firmware stick, you won't even need to load the settings saved on the first flash drive.
To be even more sure, just take a picture of all the settings with your PC or phone and proceed.
If you do the operation in the summer to see how it works do you have to wait for the cold again? 😆😆

… Il giorno 5 apr 2023, alle ore 14:34, Julien Grossholtz ***@***.***> ha scritto:
Thanks I received your email with the procedure. I am in the same case, right now it is still cold outside so I think I will wait for now.
I am also considering another approach, not sure if it is possible :
Do you now if there is any information sent by the heater related with the pellet aspiration ? Then we could find a configuration to avoid hour based filling of the intermediate tank.
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I also have the water heater so I will have some consumption at least ! |
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my compact vew |
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don't have a solar thermal?
… Il giorno 5 apr 2023, alle ore 16:00, Julien Grossholtz ***@***.***> ha scritto:
I also have the water heater so I will have some consumption at least !
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No, it is not efficient enough here (Nord/Est of France) for the investment. |
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Hello everyone, I finally installed version 4.02a_P yesterday. Now the configuration and optimization can finally start :). @dominikamann I requested the update via the service (see mail I sent you), the update was installed yesterday by a technician. Yesterday I set and calibrated the filling tank to ZWB. It is currently still on the "calibrate" function. It will probably take 24 hours to calibrate, right? But I haven't found a way to set the maximum capacity of the filling tank, which is currently 6,000kg, but I "only" have 4,200kg. Is there a way where I can change that? @lucaferrucci I'll get in touch the days with the desired data for optimization, thanks again for the offer! Otherwise, next week I will devote myself to visualizing the data in a chic dashboard. At this point I can recommend an interesting smart clock called Ulanzi, where you can install ESPHome and integrate it into HA. Inspiring status messages from the Pellematic can be displayed on it ;-). |
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if you followed the technician who did the update in the future you can do it yourself, it's quite simple.
for the warehouse capacity you have to do it from the boiler touch screen, it does not change the maximum volume via the web.
For optimisation, no problem, you need to give me a description of your system and its distribution in your home, I'll gladly help you without any problems.
… Il giorno 21 apr 2023, alle ore 08:10, Macintras ***@***.***> ha scritto:
Hello everyone,
I finally installed version 4.02a_P yesterday. Now the configuration and optimization can finally start :).
@dominikamann <https://github.com/dominikamann> I requested the update via the service (see mail I sent you), the update was installed yesterday by a technician.
Yesterday I set and calibrated the filling tank to ZWB. It is currently still on the "calibrate" function. It will probably take 24 hours to calibrate, right?
But I haven't found a way to set the maximum capacity of the filling tank, which is currently 6,000kg, but I "only" have 4,200kg. Is there a way where I can change that?
@lucaferrucci <https://github.com/lucaferrucci> I'll get in touch the days with the desired data for optimization, thanks again for the offer!
Otherwise, next week I will devote myself to visualizing the data in a chic dashboard. At this point I can recommend an interesting smart clock called Ulanzi, where you can install ESPHome and integrate it into HA. Inspiring status messages from the Pellematic can be displayed on it ;-).
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Hi Guys, Thanks a lot for your support, |
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@lucaferrucci I would be grateful if you could also send me the firmware to follow consumption, my email : [email protected] |
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i send you a mail |
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Hi, it's not a dedicated firmware, I have to activate the "zwb" function in your system, the firmware is unique, what machine do you have?
… Il giorno 1 gen 2024, alle ore 18:53, loicguiraud ***@***.***> ha scritto:
@lucaferrucci <https://github.com/lucaferrucci> I would be grateful if you could also send me the firmware to follow consumption, my email : ***@***.*** ***@***.***>
thanks a lot to everyone
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I've a Pellematic Compact in version Touch V4.01 |
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the function can be activated from 4.01 |
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Strange, for me it works with 4.00b |
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it shouldn't, even from your version
… Il giorno 3 gen 2024, alle ore 10:57, loicguiraud ***@***.***> ha scritto:
I've a Pellematic Compact in version Touch V4.01
I understood that daily consumption was available in version 4.02, is that correct?
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I don't understand, I believed that the consumption setting are available in the 4.02 firmware, am I wrong ? |
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(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/57dt5c76kohhoy4cm8ixu/update_oekofen-402b.exe? rlkey=66ygn8tzot8axdkulqg9p9pte&dl=0) |
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Did you click on the padlock in the boiler interface and enter the code? |
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perfect, you just have to remember to enter the quantities when you fill the tank, what tank capacity do you have?
… Il giorno 2 gen 2024, alle ore 18:05, laoganeo ***@***.***> ha scritto:
@dominikamann <https://github.com/dominikamann> @lucaferrucci <https://github.com/lucaferrucci> many thanks for the help.
The issue was, that the general tracking of the consumption was disabled. That also meant it was not showing at all.
By entering the code level, I was able to enable the consumption tracking via the storage comtainer. (In German it's called "ZWB" - Zwischenbehälter)
Then it took one period of fully emptying the storage container - for some kind of calibration. After that it worked fine, with showing the yesterday and daily consumption 👍
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you have to enter the password and then you will find the settings under pellematic
… Il giorno 7 gen 2024, alle ore 18:32, loicguiraud ***@***.***> ha scritto:
I don't understand, I believed that the consumption setting are available in the 4.02 firmware, am I wrong ?
My pellematic compact is in version 4.01 and I can't find the ZWB setting even when a enable advanced mode directly on the screen.
Who can send me the firmware ?
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Hi, |
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Hi, BR |
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Hi @lucaferrucci I also would like to update my system to the new Firmware my 14 compact is quite new 4 moth but it still came with 4.00 could you pleas also send me the update? oekofen at jamjon dot de . I also have the feeling it could be optimized quite a bit, I plan on running oekofenspy in parallel and see what i can figure out. I will fill my tank with fresh 5000kg tomorrow and in the summer i also have a solar thermal system for the hot water. so I hope that lasts me at least a Year. You have any suggestions what parameters to focus on in thew beginning? Thank you for sharing all your knowledge here and also @dominikamann thank you for your great integration! |
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Ho anche visto okofenspy, grazie a dominique e homeassistant puoi effettivamente fare quasi le stesse cose direttamente da Hass ! |
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hi, no problem, as soon as I can I'll send you the files with the new update, you have to follow a procedure to update, but it's not difficult, to optimize the system you should give me some information on how the system is made.
Is the heating at high temperature or low?
how big is your house, how big is your puffer and how many zones do you have, if only one zone for the whole house or do you have a sleeping area and a living area.
If your system is similar to my house, in addition to giving you the data, I can also send you the screen shots of my system, no problem.hi, no problem, as soon as I can I'll send you the files with the new update, you have to follow a procedure to update, but it's not difficult, to optimize the system you should give me some information on how the system is made.
Is the heating at high temperature or low?
how big is your house, how big is your puffer and how many zones do you have, if only one zone for the whole house or do you have a sleeping area and a living area.
If your system is similar to my house, in addition to giving you the data, I can also send you the screen shots of my system, no problem.hi, no problem, as soon as I can I'll send you the files with the new update, you have to follow a procedure to update, but it's not difficult, to optimize the system you should give me some information on how the system is made.
Is the heating at high temperature or low?
how big is your house, how big is your puffer and how many zones do you have, if only one zone for the whole house or do you have a sleeping area and a living area.
If your system is similar to my house, in addition to giving you the data, I can also send you the screen shots of my system, no problem.
… Il giorno 5 apr 2024, alle ore 00:56, Jamjon ***@***.***> ha scritto:
Hi @lucaferrucci <https://github.com/lucaferrucci> I also would like to update my system to the new Firmware my 14 compact is quite new 4 moth but it still came with 4.00 could you pleas also send me the update? oekofen at jamjon dot de . I also have the feeling it could be optimized quite a bit, I plan on running oekofenspy in parallel and see what i can figure out. I will fill my tank with fresh 5000kg tomorrow and in the summer i also have a solar thermal system for the hot water. so I hope that lasts me at least a Year. You have any suggestions what parameters to focus on in thew beginning? Thank you for sharing all your knowledge here and also @dominikamann <https://github.com/dominikamann> thank you for your great integration!
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if I remember correctly, the consumption of pellets should also be possible with version 4.0. |
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Hi @lucaferrucci, |
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Hi thank you for your advice, looks like that worked. |
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good morning everyone, I put the link to download the 402b version, were you able to download it? https://www.dropbox.com/s/7evejvc66jwgqne/update_oekofen-402b.zip?dl=0 |
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Hi everyone, thank you @lucaferrucci for posting the firmware, waited almost a year for the Okofen guys near my zone to get my boiler updated, did it myself succesfully from 2.09. |
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Perfect, as I promised you, it's simpler than it seems. |
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Hey! @lucaferrucci I would be interested in the firmware as the link seems to have expired! I am currently on v4.0b. Is the firmware file you share universal? Thanks |
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Hallo @dominikamann,
erst mal vielen vielen Dank für dieses wundervolle Modul & Integration.
Sowas werde ich natürlich supporten (donate).
Ich bin seit 2 Tagen glücklicher Besitzer einer Ökofen Pellematic Compact (14 KW).
Ich konnte die Anlage mit dem Addon auch super einbinden und erhalte soweit alle Werte, ausgenommen die verbrauchten Pellets (heute, gestern etc.).
Muss ich dafür einen zusätzlichen Sensor (im Gewebetank) haben oder liegt es daran dass die Anlage "nur" den Softwarestand 4.0b.hat?
Des Weiteren ist mir noch unklar wie ich den Wert "Pellet Storage Level" auf den tatsächlichen Füllwert stellen (aktuell bei 6.000kg) kann. Oder ist dies auch abhängig des Sensor?
Ich danke euch für den Support!
VG
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