Search functionality

[klues]

Quote by @tiekoide:

I have a question about the possibility to search for elements in grids (#77). Therapists started using and asked if this was possible, since it facilitates navigating the system.

Yes, it's a good idea, but I'm not sure how it's best to implement.
Do you think users should be able to search for words on their own, or is it something only professionals will use? I've just looked at a commercial AAC app and there they only have a search bar at the top, which I think cannot easily be used by the user, unless he/she is able to type on a normal hardware keyboard. So I see two general concepts:

1. Separate search fuctionality somewhere, within an own view/menu entry/modal. Only usable by typing a word using a standard keyboard.
2. Integrated search functionality within grids. Users would be able to input a search term on a keyboard grid and then get some search results also represented within a grid (similar as YouTube search now). Pro: users can use it, Con: it's only available if the keyboard and search functionality is built up manually within the grid/existing in the configuration.

I think in a first step it would be easier to implement concept (1). But I would be interested about your opinion and thoughts how this search functionality ideally should work and look like.

[tiekoide]

I think concept (1) would be really nice, since it would allow people who are using commercial apps to have the same functionality in AsTeRICS-grid and thus, facilitate the use with a feature they are used to have. As a first start, I believe concept (1) would be valuable. Something like an icon "search" or a "search bar" that opens a keyboard and then, the user can type the word and retrieve all the grids where this word is located. This icon or search bar could be part of the global grid so that it is available in all grids. Professionals who are working with multiple AAC devices and grids with different organizations would benefit from searching and finding the words quickly to either model or communicate. Em ter., 14 de fev. de 2023 às 05:30, Benjamin Klaus < ***@***.***> escreveu:

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Quote by @tiekoide <https://github.com/tiekoide>: I have a question about the possibility to search for elements in grids ( #77 <#77>). Therapists started using and asked if this was possible, since it facilitates navigating the system. Yes, it's a good idea, but I'm not sure how it's best to implement. Do you think users should be able to search for words on their own, or is it something only professionals will use? I've just looked at a commercial AAC app and there they only have a search bar at the top, which I think cannot easily be used by the user, unless he/she is able to type on a normal hardware keyboard. So I see two general concepts: 1. Separate search fuctionality somewhere, within an own view/menu entry/modal. Only usable by typing a word using a standard keyboard. 2. Integrated search functionality within grids. Users would be able to input a search term on a keyboard grid and then get some search results also represented within a grid (similar as YouTube search now). Pro: users can use it, Con: it's only available if the keyboard and search functionality is built up manually within the grid/existing in the configuration. I think in a first step it would be easier to implement concept (1). But I would be interested about your opinion and thoughts how this search functionality ideally should work and look like. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#239>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/A3GQUAYSJ3O53UMWKNXYBDTWXM7CRANCNFSM6AAAAAAU3IAFRM> . You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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[klues]

OK, then I think it would be most logical to add a new button "Search" at the top of the normal grid view like here:

It would open a modal (popup) where a search term could be entered and the results are shown within the modal. Do you think we also need the path from the start grid to the word or only the grids where the word is located?
Maybe it would also make sense to implement a "guide" which shows the path to the element by highlighting the elements that are necessary to select?!

[tiekoide]

In my opinion, this search button should be after the "trash", a "magnifying glass" as part of the "main bar" of the global grid, so that it is available when the system is being used in full screen mode, which is probably the most used form. The "search" function would be available not to "construct" the tables but to find the elements while using the system. (so probably I did not correctly understand concepts 1 and 2..., sorry : the search would be available to the user...) I think only the grids where the element is located would be enough as search results. This would facilitate the "real time use" of the system, less is more... Too much information about the path could confuse the rapid use of the communicator (in my opinion). And if the search is too recurrent, maybe it is a sign for the user to put/add the element somewhere else they are easier to find... Em qui., 16 de fev. de 2023 às 10:22, Benjamin Klaus < ***@***.***> escreveu:

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OK, then I think it would be most logical to add a new button "Search" at the top of the normal grid view like here: [image: image] <https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/2537025/219361035-23a8967e-8642-46cd-837a-9ebd77212e3a.png> It would open a modal (popup) where a search term could be entered and the results are shown within the modal. Do you think we also need the path from the start grid to the word or only the grids where the word is located? Maybe it would also make sense to implement a "guide" which shows the path to the element by highlighting the elements that are necessary to select?! — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#239 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/A3GQUAYUP6RBVZLM7HS7XZTWXYS2JANCNFSM6AAAAAAU3IAFRM> . You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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[klues]

OK, but I think we should have both: the search button in the top menu bar as in my screenshot and maybe additionally the possibility to open the search modal by selecting an element within the global grid. If it's only in the global grid, the search wouldn't be accessible for custom global grids.

[jamjolu]

For the time being try this:
1> Go to Manage Grids
2> Choose Save Grids from the More menu
3> Open the PDF in your browser or Adobe Reader
5> Use the Search or Find function to locate instances of the word in the PDF representation.

You can click on elements in the PDF and if there is a link you will be taken to the inked grid.
The PDF has the grid names at the bottom of each grid.
I use this method all the time for editing, and to remember where I put things.

[jamjolu]

I made a slight, but important, omission to my search method above. The 2nd step should read, "Choose Save grids to PDF".
I might also add that if you use Google Chrome as I do, I open the grid set PDF in a Chrome tab next to the AG grid set I am working on. I use the "Find" option from the Google Chrome 3-dot menu. To search for just the word, "body" and to not also find words where body may appear (anybody, everybody), put a space before the word (and maybe after the word as well.)

[AlphaJet64]

Hello everyone, I am a new user of this fantastic project and I have some limitations.
I don't know if it's here where I can make this query
First: Is it possible to have some kind of label to display the day and date in a grid. Or a button that responds to a code for example in java or another language to show it.
Second: it would be advantageous to be able to select a set of buttons to assign them the same property a color for example
Thank's

[klues]

Hi @AlphaJet64 and thanks for your comment!

First: Is it possible to have some kind of label to display the day and date in a grid. Or a button that responds to a code for example in java or another language to show it.

For this we already have this similar issue: #75

Second: it would be advantageous to be able to select a set of buttons to assign them the same property a color for example
Thank's

We already have this issue: #1
So good ideas which already have been there in a similar verison, however since I'm basically the only active developer, it's not clear when they can be implemented.

[AlphaJet64]

@klues .Thank you for your reply, I had not seen the different conversations.
Another idea for WebRadio button : to be able to loop in the list (from the begining or the end) and also put the name of the station played in the on/off button.
A suggestion for options of a date button action: one checkbox for today another for up to; one text box for the date and another for the DDD format DDD mm yy: HH . Or give a get to an url of a simple Web page to return that (like WebRadio do)
I understand that is not the priority
Congratulations again for your efforts.

[klues]

Regarding looping in WebRadio:
I think this is already possible, see e.g. the demo configuration AsTeRICS Grid default - pressing on "Next radio station" multiple times loops through all radios:

Regarding the date/time info element, I've added a comment here: #75

If you have additional ideas or comments, please either add new disscussion topics or new issues - because here we are in a Thread about "Search functionality".

[AlphaJet64]

Hello Klaus. Thanks for your explanations
I expressed myself badly: by talking about a loop, I meant the possibility of returning to the beginning of the list when you reached the end by advancing in the list, likewise by traversing the list backwards you can return to the end from the beginning.
For your suggestions for the date I fully agree
PS : OK For other ideas I will use in the future the issues
Best wishes.

[AlphaJet64]

Sorry but when I tested it didn't do the loop , I just retested and it works perfect!

[klues]

Please test first version of the search functionality at https://grid.asterics.eu/latest/

Now there's a search button at the top right in normal grid view:

(just saw that the button label still needs to be translated)

The search modal looks like this:

Please tell me your feedback. Any features missing? Should search also be available within the edit view?

[arasaac-dga]

Wowww!!!! Works perfect and accomplish with its mission perfectly. Great work!!!!

[jamjolu]

Bravo, It works really well. I like that it starts looking given only 2 characters, and that you can see both the path, as well as being able to link directly to the element. Thanks so much for this, Jim Luther

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On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 10:45 AM Benjamin Klaus ***@***.***> wrote: Please test first version of the search functionality at https://grid.asterics.eu/latest/ Now there's a search button at the top right in normal grid view: grafik.png (view on web) <https://github.com/asterics/AsTeRICS-Grid/assets/2537025/ba149f70-e8af-4948-8c13-48906d9bae0b> (just saw that the button label still needs to be translated) The search modal looks like this: grafik.png (view on web) <https://github.com/asterics/AsTeRICS-Grid/assets/2537025/0e51d120-6fdb-4e8d-8c40-43b971930da0> Please tell me your feedback. Any features missing? Should search also be available within the edit view? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#239 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AF4D6ZQFU5TA4OUIZZK5QCLYGYBI5AVCNFSM6AAAAAAU3IAFROVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43SRDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHM3TMOJTHA4TC> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[klues]

Great that you like it.
I think about making it globally available with keyboard shortcut Ctrl + F, so that it's also shown in "Manage grids" or in edit view when pressing Ctrl + F. What do you think?! Or is it enough to be only accessible in the main view?

[deinhofer]

As it's more like a global search within grids, I would recommend Ctrl + K, see for example Mozilla shortcuts.

Ctrl+F is typically used for searching the current message or document.

[arasaac-dga]

Could be interesting for managers to have this option available on Manage Grids (indeed with a button in grids zone to be more visible) and through key combination (although many people don't know and use them) to know if some element is used in one or several grids and go directly to edit it/them. So, almost in Manage Grid it is interesting to add this functionality. Anyway if is globally available through key combination in other sections, ok. About key combinations (Ctrl+K or Ctrl+F), what you consider better is ok for us. Finally, we consider necessary to add, as ALT text in the button, the key combination in order people learn it. 

[arasaac-dga]

We have a new suggestion. Speaking with Speech Therapists about this new feature we agree with them that it would be neccesary to add the search feature as an action too (additionally with the button in upper next to the lock button) and the option in Manage Grids commented. Why? because most of the professionals and users use the communicator in fullscreen mode and they "love" to have a cell (for example in global grid) that opens the search button. In fullscreen the actual button remains hidden until you exit fullscreen. So, we think that adding a new action to open this modal window would be really easy and professionals would be very grateful with you.

[jamjolu]

The keyboard shortcut would be a great idea. I would use it when I construct/modify grid sets. jl

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On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 9:42 AM Benjamin Klaus ***@***.***> wrote: Great that you like it. I think about making it globally available with keyboard shortcut Ctrl + F, so that it's also shown in "Manage grids" or in edit view when pressing Ctrl + F. What do you think?! Or is it enough to be only accessible in the main view? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#239 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AF4D6ZVZDI3VVHECW4TQRW3YG5CU3AVCNFSM6AAAAAAU3IAFROVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43SRDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHM3TOMBVGY4DQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[klues]

all further info/discussions here: #77