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Web conference notes, 2021.05.06 (Joint Working Group)
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Joint Working Group - City Services
- Every other week call at 9am PT / 12pm ET / 6pm CET
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- Michael Schnuerle, OMF
- Steve Brining, Blue Systems
- William Henderson, Ride Report
- Matt Davis, Populus
- Emmett McKinney, Superpedestrian (dba LINK)
- Marie Maxham, E&A
- Neil Goldader, E&A
- 16 attendees
Main Topics
- Discussion around adding /trips endpoint to Agency API #550
WGSC Meeting Organizers
- Host: Steve Brining
- Facilitator: ...
- Outreach: Michael Schnuerle
- Note taker: Michael Schnuerle
- Spin is ok with this idea now that we are slower with MDS release and they have more technical team resources
- Possible convergence of Agency / Provider in the future?
- Not sure yet we can do that. Would be a Major release, so would not be until in 2022.
- If unified, same data in different directions. Provider could get you in sync if Agency goes down.
- Made a new Discussion issue to discuss and capture ideas about an Agency and Policy convergence in a future major release
- Neil: Dangling/orphaned trips from other jurisdictions - push interface in Agency is better than Provider so as not to overwhelm it with requests searching for an end/start to orphaned trop. May require querying provider a ton to find it.
- Neil will document orphaned trips use case in the issue.
- See new issue created at #642
- Agency meant more real time, Provider more historic. That may not be how it is used now, but that was intent. Could go back to that more explicitly.
- Per Europe conversations, some are concerned with real time aspect of Agency. Cities could choose more RT vs Historic for GDPR. Provider Trips is not meant to be RT.
- Mentioned example of Dutch city getting fined $600K Euro for tracking personal phone mac addresses with no GDPR rules in place, but this is not the same as shared devices with proper GDPR framework.
- William: Is RT more sensitive? Historic is maybe more privacy focus. Universal is RT, but not the setting up of tech stack. May not be relevant
- General information suggestion - add a section of what’s required in trips.
- Maybe fix this in Provider too to hit both of them.
- William will create a new issue William or Neil can dig it up.
- Need more info in taxi trips, and trips in agency is needed then.
- Note that Member Networks coming soon for clarity with people talking about passenger services in more detail
- Trips is missing now in Agency, and never got created.
- Taxi draft: https://github.com/lacuna-tech/mobility-data-specification/tree/add-taxi-mode/agency#trips
- Includes rate information
- SF is also looking for taxis
- Marie will make PR in MDS repo
- Emmett from SP will leave feedback on issue.
Notes from OMF: new blog posts
- Survey results blog post: https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/state-of-mds-survey-results-2021/ - OMF Members roundtable coming soon.
- Ride Report Post case study: https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/case-study-ride-report-mds-fees-subsidies/
- OMF how we work and org chart: https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/what-it-means-to-co-create-how-mds-is-developed-as-an-open-standard/
MDS Links
Working Groups
2.1.0 Release
0.4.1 Release Planning Meetings