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Web conference notes, 2021.08.12 (Joint Working Group)
Joint MDS Working Group
- Every week call at 9am PT / 12pm ET / 6pm CET
Meeting ID: 841 7098 9462 - Passcode 612987
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Note: We are now collecting attendees upon entry into the Zoom meeting. An attendee count will be posted here after the meeting:
18 Attendees
Main Topics
- Discussion on Board vote on merger of MDS WGs
- Tiered dwell time rates - #658
- Modes in MDS scheduled for Aug 19
WGSC Meeting Organizers
- Host: Steve Brining
- Facilitator: Michael Schnuerle
- Outreach: Michael Schnuerle
- Note taker: Matt Davis
Action Items
- Neil to refine #658 with necessary clarifications based on notes and feedback
- Community to review "mode" discussion in #652
- OMF to broadcast working group merger
Notes
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Board approved the merger of the City and Provider Working Groups into a single MDS Working Group.
- Consolidating mailing lists, wiki pages
- Making a new charter
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Neil presenting about "Tiered Dwell Time with Rates" pull request adding policy examples of parking fees that vary over the duration of the parking event
- https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/pull/658
- In response to this question posted as an issue: https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/issues/631
- Matt Davis asked a clarifying question about rate amount: rate amount is always per time unit, so to represent a $2 fee per 30 minutes you'd divide 200 cents / 30 minutes = ~7 cents per minute
- Emmett asked about whether rates apply as soon as they match a time unit
(e.g. at the start of an hour), or after the completion of the time
unit. Policy lets you specify either option via different
rate_recurrence
options. - Sebastien Berthaud asked whether the examples in the PR are based on real use cases. Answer is yes, Jean's original post in #631 was motivated by real world use cases. One example is this from Omaha, NE (page 27): https://cityclerk.cityofomaha.org/images/agenda/ID_20_07_14/RES-2020-0583.pdf
- Neil continues to discussion of Matt's suggestions in #666 and #677
- #666 suggests adding a flag of whether a rate applies when an event
matches a rule or when it does not
- Implementing #666 doesn't block #658, but we do need to clarify whether rates apply to rules when events match or when they do not
- Matt raises the question of how one knows whether a rule applies to
individual units or an entire group of things (whether that's vehicles
or units of time)
- This will probably require additional clarification
- Regarding whether rule
minimum
andmaximum
are inclusive (#677), Neil suggests that that may need to be configurable to support all rule types
OMF Announcements
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Angela noted this new OMF blog post on MDS: https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/whats-next-for-mds-previewing-upcoming-versions/
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Michael Schnuerle announces that in the next meeting (2021-08-19) the group will be discussing adding "mode" concepts to MDS
- Attendees to review and discuss on https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/discussions/652
New Attendees
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